Profitec Pro 500 PID/troubleshooting

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Profitec Pro 500 PID

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My Machine Has No Power, Pops GFCI

NOTE: Prosumers should be on a dedicated 15 amp circuit that is not being shared with other appliances.
  • Is the green light on in the front of the machine when the power switch is flipped? This green light represents that the machine has power.
  • If the green light is not illuminated this could indicate an issue with the outlet, the power chord, or the on switch.
  • If the green light is on, is the orange light on?
  • If the orange light is not on, this means that power is not being supplied to the rest of the machine. Make sure the water tank is full and sitting properly within the reservoir support.
  • If the tank is in place with enough water inside, testing the magnet sensor for the tank would be the first and easiest place to start.
  • Remove the tank and have a magnet handy. Standing in front of the machine and looking down at the reservoir support, there is a black sensor, on the left hand side, about halfway down. Hold the magnet over that sensor and see if the orange light comes on.
  • If it does, then inspect the magnet in the tank. The magnet may have come out of where it sits and would need to be put back. The cap that holds the magnet in place should be flush with the channel that the magnet sits in. If the cap is pushed down too far or has popped upward, it will change where the magnet sits and the sensor may be unable to sense the magnet. Adjust the cap if necessary. Replace the water tank back into the reservoir support.
  • If the orange light is still not on, there maybe an issue with the control board of the machine. This will require checking power coming in and back out of the control board with a meter, or sending the machine in to have it serviced by a tech.
  • No.
  • Try testing another appliance on the same outlet. Does this appliance have power?
  • If Yes, we recommend having the machine serviced by a tech.
  • If you feel comfortable accessing the machine, we can check the heating element connected to the boiler. To access the machine, we must first remove the housing. There are 4 2.5mm screws on the top (two screws in the front, and two screws in the back). With those removed, the top panel can be lifted off. Beneath the top panel is a shield with a 3mm screw going into the side panels. Unscrew those and lift the shield out of the machine. Looking into the machine from the top, you can find a screw near each of the front, top corners of the machine, which connect the side-panels to the frame of the machine. Loosen these screws (do not unscrew). When done correctly, you will be able to wiggle the side-panels but not lift them off outright. Flip the machine on it's back onto a towel or other soft surface to preserve the cosmetics of the back panel. On the bottom of the machine are 4 3mm screws: two are located near the front corners of the machine, and the other two are at the rear, by the legs. Unscrew these. Return the machine upright while supporting the side-panels at the bottom. Lightly tap the side-panels from the top, causing them to drop. Support the panels by the bottom and grab back sides. Tug the side-panels gently outward and push toward the rear of the machine. The housing should come off like a sleeve.
  • You will now have access to the internals. Facing the front of the machine, the element we need to look at are located on the right end of the boiler. You will notice black and blue wires connecting to the element in the boiler. Unplug these and leave them unplugged. Plug in the machine, turn it on, and see if the GFCI pops. If it does not pop, the element needs replacing. If the GFCI still pops, turn off the machine and unplug it. The electrical is arcing somewhere in the machine. You can check for pinched wires or scorch marks to investigate what is damaged, but a repair is recommended.


  • Yes. Electrical testing will need to be done to check the power cord of the espresso machine. Recommend repair or professional.
  • No. The problem is your outlet.

There is no Water flow at all

  • Lift the lever. Can you hear the pump?
  • No. If the pump does not come on, manually use something to push in the switch behind the brew lever. Can you hear the pump now?
  • Yes. Adjust the microswitch behind the lever so it protrudes more, and the lever can reach it when it’s pressing down on it. How to pull out the brew lever microswitch.
  • Yes. Move on to I Have No Water Flow At All From The Group
  • If the machine is not drawing any water, the back panel of the machine should be removed. The plastic socket that the water reservoir slides into should be inspected. On the inside of the socket is a plastic post that runs through it that pushes the ball bearing in the reservoir valve upwards, allowing water to come through the tank into the socket. The post should be inspected to make sure it is not broken or bent. The socket should be inspected to make sure it is intact and not broken in anyway. This is common due to shipping damage or age, pushing down too hard with the water tank.
  • If the socket is fine, the water lines coming off the socket should be looked at to make sure they are not kinked shut. If the water line is kinked shut, no water will come through to the pump, or be able to be forced through via priming.
  • If the socket and water lines are fine, you can remove the waterline coming off of the pump and try running the pump to see if water comes through. If it does not, this means either the the pump or the pump motor is faulty or seized. If water does come through, then this could be a sign of a bad solenoid or a blockage in the hydraulic system
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How to Remove the Housing on Profitec Machines



There is no water coming out when I open the water valve

Make sure that the steam valve works, and the issue has been isolated to just the hot water side of the machine.

Check your steam gauge. Is it showing approx 1.2 bars of pressure?

  • Yes. Remove the hot water tip. Open the hot water wand. Does water come out?
  • Yes. Remove the tip from the hot water tap and test the flow. If flow is restored then the tip needs to be cleaned and reattached. Mineral deposits can easily collect in the screen/holes of the hot water tap, so be sure to clean these thoroughly. Soaking the tip in a solution of hot water and backflushing powder will help remove residues more effectively.
  • No. There may be a blockage in the wand of the hot water tap. Clean the wand by using a pipe brush that has synthetic or plastic bristles; metal bristles can damage the wand. Then soak the wand in a solution of hot water and dish soap. Backflushing powders should not be used due to the chemicals, which can cause a reaction that will strip or change certain metals different colors, especially if any type of coating is missing
  • No. Allow machine to cool, remove the housing, remove the copper pipe off the back of the hot water valve and check for a blockage if no blockage is present in the valve or the end of the pipe, a blockage is present on the boiler side. Should be sent in for repair/descale of hydraulic system.
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How to Diagnose Hot Water and Steam System Obstructions



There is no steam coming out when I open the steam knob

Make sure that the hot water valve works, and the issue has been isolated to just the steam side of the machine.

Check your steam gauge. Is it showing approx 1.2 bars of pressure?

  • Yes. Remove the tip from the steam wand. Open the valve. Is there steam coming out of the steam arm?
  • Yes. If flow is restored then the tip needs to be cleaned and reattached. Mineral deposits and milk debris can easily collect in the holes of the steam tip, so be sure to clean these thoroughly. Soaking the tip in a solution of hot water and backflushing powder will help remove residues more effectively.
  • Yes. Make sure the teflon “no burn” tube that is inside of the steam arm, is not sticking out too far. It can block the holes of the steam tip. You can push this back up into the wand. You can also trim a little bit of the tubing off at the nd, on an angle. This will prevent it from blocking off the holes in the steam tip.
  • No. There may be a blockage in the steam arm. Clean the wand by using a pipe brush that has synthetic or plastic bristles; metal bristles can damage the wand. Then soak the wand in a solution of hot water and dish soap. Backflushing powders should not be used due to the chemicals, which can cause a reaction that will strip or change certain metals different colors, especially if any type of coating is missing
  • No. Allow machine to cool, remove the housing, remove the copper pipe off the back of the steam valve and check for a blockage if no blockage is present in the valve or the end of the pipe, a blockage is present on the boiler side. Should be sent in for repair/descale of hydraulic system.
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How to Diagnose Hot Water and Steam System Obstructions



My steam boiler is not heating/ Not Steaming and no Hot Water At All

Confirm that water is coming through the group head when the lever is lifted, and that this has been isolated to a steam boiler issue. (You can still get water out of the group head without the boiler being full.We should be making sure the autofill function has successfully filled the boiler. Easiest way, remove the probe from the autofill and let it run for a few seconds, watching the level in the tank and see if it starts to drop. Put probe back on. Do not run this for too long or you will over fill the boiler and water will pour from the safety.

1. Is the orange light coming on on the front of the machine?

  • No.
    • Is the machine plugged in and the power switch on?
      • Yes. Move on to the next question
      • No. Plug the machine in and turn the power switch on
    • Visually inspect the high limit switch.
      • Is it melted or broken? Replace it.
      • If it is not broken, unplug the machine, and reset it.
        • Power the machine on see if it heats
      • Test the high limit switch for continuity.
        • Does it have continuity?
          • Yes. Move on to the next question.
          • No. Replace the high limit switch.
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How To Reset High-Limit Switches on a Profitec Pro 700 Espresso Machine



    • Is the solenoid valve (also called the auto fill valve) clicking, but not filling the boiler?
      • Clean the autofill valve.
    • Test voltage out of control board to the pressurestat. Is there voltage?
      • No: Replace the board
      • Yes. Is there voltage coming OUT of the pressurestat to the heating element?
        • No. replace Pressurestat.
  • YES
    • Power down the machine and unplug it. Remove the housing of the machine. Remove the electrical leads to the heating element. Test the heating element for continuity.
      • Is there continuity?
        • No. Replace the heating element. Take note that a bad element can still have continuity so an element should not be dismissed if it has continuity. However in most cases when the red light is on and the machine is not heating, the element will be completely fractured and display no continuity.
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How to Replace Your Heating Element



My steam pressure is low

  • Can you trust that the gauge is working and reliable? Does it drop to 0 when the machine is completely cooled?
  • While Steaming?
  • The steam gauge is going to drop from 1.2 to.8 on average, when the steam knob is opened. This is normal.
  • Has the machine had about half an hour or so to fully come to heat?
  • Yes. Move on to the next question.
  • No. Leave the machine on for a full half hour to let it come to temp.
  • If your machine has a PID, is the PID set to at least 248 degrees Fahrenheit?
  • Remove steam tip, hold up to the light and inspect for partial blockage from debris, old milk etc. Clean if necessary.
  • Make sure the teflon “no burn” tube that is inside of the steam arm, is not sticking out too far. It can block the holes of the steam tip. You can push this back up into the wand.
  • If your gauge steam (caldaia) is not reaching at least 1 bar, your machine is not generating enough boiler pressure. Usually this means an adjustment needs to be made to the machine. If your machine is an older model, featuring a pressurestat, you can adjust your boiler pressure using the instructions in the video on the right. If your machine features a PID, you can adjust the temperature setting using the instructions in your user manual.
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How to Adjust a Sirai Pressurestat



I Have No Water Flow At All From The Group

Are you using a water softener?

  • Yes. Remove it so you can test water flow without it.
  • Make sure it is not floating and sucking in air.
  • If it's old, replace it.
  • Lift the lever. Can you hear the sound of the pump?
  • Yes.
  • Open the hot water valve. Does the pump refill the boiler?
  • Yes.
  • Remove the nut at the top of the group head and check the valve. It is sometimes called a mushroom valve or jet. Inspect this for any scale or mineral deposits. Clean it really well. Hold it up to a window or a light to make sure that the hole is clear of any scale or minerals. The top of the group head when removed is one piece and to gain access to the jet and the screen the two pieces have to be separated, inside the cap is where the jet and the screen sit. If no improvement, move on to the next step.
  • While you have this out, check and see if water is sitting in the group head. This would indicate that water is at least making it out of the brew boiler and in to the group head.
  • Remove the shower screen. Hold it up to a light, and see if all of the holes are clear. Soak the screen in cafiza, or purchase a new screen and replace it.
  • With the screen removed, remove the jet breaker behind it. This will be flat and can be removed with a flathead, or it will have a bolt and will require a 19mm wrench to remove. This should be inspected for any build up that will block it off.
  • Neither of the above solutions have fully restored the water flow to the group. Try doing a full group head teardown.
  • No. Is the back of the lever pressing on the microswitch?
  • No. Press it manually. Is the pump coming on now?
  • Yes. Adjust the microswitch so that it sticks out of the front further, so when lifting the lever, it can reach this button, and press down on it.
  • No. Remove the housing and look at the microswitch, inspect the wires to make sure they are not disconnected or damaged. Test continuity on the switch.Is there continuity?
  • Yes. It’s possible its a bad pump
  • Test the pump for continuity.
  • Make sure there is voltage going to the pump.
  • See My brew pressure is low
  • No. Replace the microswitch.
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How To Clean E61 Brew Group Mushroom, Jet and Top Valve



My brew pressure is low

Do you have the backflush disk in?

This is the only true test of brew pressure. Coffee has too many variables. The backflush disk gives us a control model. With the backflush disk in, the gauge should rise to 9 bars in 9-11 seconds.


My brew pressure is high

Do you have the backflush disk in? This is the only true test of brew pressure. Coffee has too many variables. The backflush disk gives us a control model. With the backflush disk in, the gauge should rise to 9 bars in 9-11 seconds.


My group head won't flush when I put the lever down

  • Move the lever up and down and see if resistance is felt in any direction from the cam moving between actuators (valves). If it will not drain, and not much resistance is felt, remove the bottom of the E61 group head and inspect the actuators. They may be broken, or ground down from poor maintenance that the cam does not make contact with the top of the actuator.
  • Remove cam and inspect for flat spots. If the cam is ground down it may not be making contact with the actuator.

My OPV (Little elbow pipe on the front of the machine, below E61) is leaking/ water is just running out of it

If the machine is fully heated and still leaking consistently or water is just pouring out of it. Lift the brew lever up and down and listen for a “click” from the intake solenoid. If the solenoid is clicking, Send instructions on removal and cleaning of the intake solenoid. Definitely do this if the water dripping out becomes steam, and steam is pouring out of the drain.

  • With no portafilter in place, lift lever. If no flow out of the group head is present and water is flowing from the Drain, remove the top of the group head and inspect the jet for a blockage.
  • If water is just running through out of the discharge and the pump is constantly running. A blockage maybe be present on the intake line into the boiler, this Can be removed and inspected, or the machine will need to be sent in for Repair/ hydraulic system descale.
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How To Clean E61 Brew Group Mushroom, Jet and Top Valve


  • Pro 500 machines have a line that goes from the top of the vacuum breaker into a plastic T-connector that attaches to the front discharge of the machine. If steam is pouring out of the discharge, it is likely due to a sticking vacuum breaker that will not seal so it is constantly venting steam out of the discharge. The vacuum breaker should be taken apart and cleaned/lubricated. If this does not work then it should be replaced.

The Pump Runs Continuously when Machine is Turned On

  • This means that the steam boiler is not filling. The pump will run for about a minute and then turn off. To reset it the board you will have to turn off the machine and then turn it back on. If it times out again there is a problem with the water flow.
  • If the water leaks out of the top of the boiler then the water sensing circuit is not working properly. It could be:
  • Water sensor wire came of the sensor or the board.
  • Using mineral free water. Sensors need minerals to operate.


ADVANCED TECH ONLY:
  • Remove the wire off the fill probe and ground it out. Does the pump turn off?
  • Yes. Raise the brew lever and see if water comes out of the brew group. If it does we know the pump and water circuit is working fine. The problem is probably in the steam boiler fill solenoid valve. It may be blocked or stuck.
  • No. Check the wire leading to the probe and make sure it is on the board and has continuity. If the wire is fine it may be the board.
  • If the autofill turns on after removing the wire from the probe, the boiler may already be full.
  • Move on to “My steam boiler is not heating”
  • In very rare cases, an older machine with bad water and terrible maintenance will build scale up on the probe in the boiler, scale is a poor conductor and can cause issues with the autofill circuit functioning properly. Also make sure the connector is tight on the water level probe, if its too loose, use a pair of pliers to tighten the connector more. You can remove the water level probe and check it for scale. If scale is present you can use fine grit sandpaper to remove it.

My machine is leaking

1. Is coffee coming up and over the portafilter?

  • Replace the group gasket.
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Replacing the Group Gasket on Your E61 Group Head



2. Is the leak coming from the lever arm of the machine?

  • There are 2 o rings in the lever of the machine. One or both of them may have blown out. You can take apart the lever, and check to see if they are worn. If they seem to be ok, you can lubricate them and see if that resolves the leak. If they are destroyed, they are also easy to replace and very cheap.

3. Is it steaming from above the machine through the vents on top?

  • Take apart the vacuum breaker and inspect the components, clean all components and remove any buildup or small pieces of debris. Make sure the small o-ring is not broken or too dried out.
  • If cleaning it does not resolve the steam leak, replace the vacuum relief valve.
  • Is steam pressure too high? Safety valve will vent when steam pressure exceeds a certain point. Try turning down the pressurestat. If this does not bring the pressure down there may be an issue with the stats, pressurestat, or control board.
  • If the safety is still leaking, replace the safety valve. Do not take it apart and clean it. Safety valves contain a teflon diaphragm. On older machines, debris and buildup can form here, this will allow steam to escape when steam pressure is built. Under no circumstance should you remove the copper plug and open your safety valve. This could result in incorrectly adjusting the safety which will then prevent it from blowing off excess steam like it should. The safety valve should just be replaced instead.
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How To Clean or Replace a Vacuum Relief Valve on a Profitec Pro 700 Espresso Machine



4. Is the leak or drip coming from the large pipe that comes from behind the group head? (The E61)

  • There is one valve above the group head, and two below the group head. One of the two valves may be clogged.
  • Try backflushing the machine.
  • If backflushing shows no improvement, try doing a group head teardown, and replace any valves or o rings in the valves, as needed.
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How To Clean E61 Brew Group Mushroom, Jet and Top Valve



5. Is the leak coming from where the two pipes join in the E61?

  • If leaking around the fitting or behind the fitting (where the two pipes join), either under pressure or sitting idle, may require tightening. You do not want to use sealant, as these pipes go into the back of the group head and would be in direct contact with consumable water/ coffee. This could also lock the pipes into the back of the group causing damage to the group which would require replacement of the group. Also contacts with metals is what makes the sealant harden, With how direct tightening is with those pipes you could end up cross threading into the group head thinking it's just the sealant getting hard.
  • After tightening the leak still continues, Pipe may need to be replaced, or the fitting is cross threaded and the E61 group needs replacement. Under this circumstance, both parts may require replacement.
  • The first is that one of the plumb lines connected to the back of the E-61 is not secure resulting in a leak. This will need to be tightened from the inside of the machine. You may see leaking from the bottom of the machine as well if this is the case. Remove the top of the machine and look towards the front of the machine. These lines will be located on the back of the faceplate, opposite to where the grouphead is seated. They are listed as parts 19 and 11 on p.9 of the machine's parts diagram. Use an open ended wrench or adjustable wrench to tighten these down.
  • If they have recently done any group head maintenance on the machine, they may just not have tightened the nut down all the way. Try just turning the nut with a wrench and see if it moves.

6. Is the leak coming from around the nut where the steam or hot water wand attaches?

  • If yes: There is an teflon ring in there. It is possible that the teflon ring is defective or worn out. Inside the nut for the steam wand is a small channel that the teflon ring sits inside. You can undo the nut and inspect the teflon for damage or to see if it has moved from the channel in which it sits.

7. Is it dripping or leaking out of the tip of the steam wand?

  • Yes. It should leak or drip a little bit after use, and when the machine is first started up. This is normal, and due to condensation in the pipe. It should subside after a few minutes of non use.
  • If a leak like this is present, it may be due to either debris in the valve preventing the gasket to seal, or the gasket itself is worn out and no longer seals. Inside of the valve is a long shaft with a round rubber gasket inserted in the end of it. This rubber has either gotten hard with age and no longer seals properly, or the gasket has been over tightened too much and so it is not sealing properly or it has shredded.

8. Is the leak coming from between the steam tip and the wand?

  • If a leak like this is present, it will be due to the rubber o-ring needing to be replaced.

9. Is the leak coming from the boiler itself?

  • Is it leaking from where a valve screws in to the boiler?
  • Remove the valve, and clean any remnants of sealant. You can use teflon tape, Permabond, or locktite to reseal the valve back into the boiler.
  • Is the leak coming from a weld point on the boiler?
  • The boiler must be replaced.

10. I cannot find the source of the leak.

  • Run the machine to allow it to heat. Some leaks may only be apparent under heat and pressure.
  • You can open the machine and send us any photos or videos, so we can determine if we can find the source of the leak.
  • Send the machine in for service.

11. Is the leak coming from the top nut on the group head?

  • There is an o-ring that is loose, dirty, or worn out. Take out this mushroom valve, clean any scale or debris, and reseat the valve. All of these parts are separated by teflon rings. It could just be loose and slightly tightening could stop the leak, but with heat and age its possible the teflon is no good. Tightening the bit down more will only further deform the teflon allowing a leak to still continue, these should be replaced.If it is still leaking, replace the gasket that separates it from the top of the group head. To access these parts use an open ended wrench or adjustable wrench to remove the smaller top bolt of the E-61. This will give you access to the first o-ring and spring assembly. To access further down into this part of the grouphead use a wrench to remove the large bolt. This will let you access the other o-ring, another spring assembly, and the valve assembly. Inspect all of these components for integrity. Clean any dirty parts and replace any broken parts. Reassemble the grouphead and see if the leaking is resolved.
  • If you’ve recently serviced the group head, It’s possible the nut is just loose. Try tightening it.

12. Is the leak coming from the bottom of the machine?

  • Inspect the plastic reservoir valve socket. If it is cracked, it will need to be replaced.

My pump is really loud!

  • It is possible that if the vibration pump within the machine is loud this is due to either the pump slipping out of one of the mounts, or the screw has come out of the mount and the motor is moving around. One of the rubber mounts may be ripped, or if the machine is older the mounts could be dried out and hard, causing them to make the machine louder due to not being able to absorb the vibration well. These can all be visually inspected.
  • The pump also may be on its way to failure. This is not always the case but it can be one of the symptoms of a failing pump. Run the vibration pump pressure testing to determine if the pump is displaying any other signs of failure. (Refer to “my brew pressure is too low”)

Portafilter is too tight on brand new machine

As long as water is not leaking around the portafilter from the group head, this is totally normal. Over time, the portafilter will wear in to a normal 6 o’clock position. It could take about a month or two. As long as it is making a good seal, then it is fine. In another year or so, the gasket will need to be replaced again, and may still be a little off center in the beginning.


My coffee tastes bitter or sour

Typically, issues with crema or the flavor of the shot do not indicate a malfunction of the machine. Instead, this indicates that an adjustment needs to be made in the brewing process or that different beans need to be used.

  • Here is some helpful advice on Tamping.
  • Making adjustments to the grind is going to have the biggest impact on the coffee extraction. If it is too coarse, the coffee is going to come through too fast, and not extract long enough.
  • If the grind is too fine, it is going to extract for too long, results in really bitter shots.
  • It is important to use fresh beans, typically beans roasted within the past two weeks are best. Light and medium roasts are best for espresso brewing and richer crema.

What is Preinfusion?

Pre-infusion is what allows a small amount of water through first, before beginning the shot. It allows this water to saturate the coffee and get the grounds equally wet. This can make the coffee extract more smoothly. Water will always take the path of least resistance. By letting the water saturate the grinds before brewing at 9 bars of pressure, this can help prevent channeling.

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Pre-infusion on the E61 Brew Group